Legislature(2007 - 2008)

05/10/2007 01:36 PM Senate L&C


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            CSHB  14(JUD)-RESTRICT ACCESS TO ALCOHOL                                                                        
2:07:17 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR ELLIS announced CSHB 14(JUD) to be up for consideration.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
HEATHER BEATY,  staff to  Representative Harry  Crawford, sponsor                                                               
of HB 14,  said this bill was  introduced in an effort  to find a                                                               
new approach  to reducing  the number  of drunk  driving injuries                                                               
and fatalities  in Alaska. The way  it would work is  that when a                                                               
judge  or parole  board issues  an order  that a  convicted drunk                                                               
driver  not consume  alcohol,  a  mark would  be  placed on  that                                                               
person's driver's  license or  state I.D.  card. This  mark would                                                               
let  bars, liquor  stores  and  clubs know  that  that person  is                                                               
prohibited  from consuming  alcohol.  If the  person attempts  to                                                               
purchase  alcohol,  he  faces  a $1,000  penalty  that  would  be                                                               
collected by the bar or the liquor store that catches them.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
The  $1,000 civil  penalty  is modeled  after  the penalties  for                                                               
minors attempting to  purchase alcohol on behalf of  a minor. The                                                               
legislation  has received  broad  support  including a  unanimous                                                               
vote  of  support by  the  House  of Representatives.  There  are                                                               
letters of support  in the packet from CHARR,  the Advisory Board                                                               
on  Alcoholism  and Drug  Abuse,  and  the Alaska  Mental  Health                                                               
Board.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:10:06 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR ELLIS  asked if this  bill in  any way interplays  with one                                                               
brought   up  by   Representative  Ramras   about  vertical   and                                                               
horizontal configurations of I.D.s.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS. BEATY  replied that she  wasn't familiar with  that proposal,                                                               
but Alaska  licenses have  a stripe with  a navy  blue background                                                               
and under this  bill, that stripe would be red  for those who are                                                               
court-ordered to not drink.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR BUNDE asked if they were  referring only to DWI folks and                                                               
asked  what if  someone were  a  chronic alcohol  abuser and  was                                                               
involved in  domestic violence,  would they  also be  required to                                                               
get this license.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS. BEATY  replied that expanding  this bill to  include everyone                                                               
who was court-ordered to not  drink was discussed, but the fiscal                                                               
note  for that  was astronomical  and  the court  already has  an                                                               
automatic way to communicate with  the Division of Motor Vehicles                                                               
(DMV) on drunk  driving offenses. Adding the red  stripe to drunk                                                               
driving  offenders is  an  additional check-box  on  a form  that                                                               
doesn't generate much cost. The  support system is not capable at                                                               
this time of communicating all of those orders to the DMV.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR BUNDE asked  how the court communicates a DWI  to the DMV                                                               
now.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS. BEATY  said it sends a  form to the DMV  indicating there has                                                               
been  a conviction  and  this  would go  along  with the  license                                                               
revocation paperwork.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:12:54 PM                                                                                                                    
ED O'NEIL,  owner, Brown Jug,  said he sees  a lot of  benefit in                                                               
this  legislation  especially  with  the  help  of  the  Judicial                                                               
Branch. He  said there is a  lot of sexual abuse  in the villages                                                               
and  a lot  of the  towns  are small  and  you know  who you  are                                                               
dealing with.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR BUNDE asked when he gets  a Bush order, does it include a                                                               
driver's license or another form  of I.D. because everyone in the                                                               
Bush does not drive.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. O'Neil replied  that it is either a state  I.D. or a driver's                                                               
license that has  been scanned into the system now.  He said 1 in                                                               
5 people between  the ages of 9  and 18 are abused and  this is a                                                               
huge issue.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  BUNDE asked  if  someone had  a DWI  red  mark on  their                                                               
driver's license, couldn't they use a state I.D. instead.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR.  O'NEIL replied  that  he understands  that  this applies  to                                                               
state I.D.s as well as driver's licenses.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. BEATY agreed that this bill  applies to both state I.D. cards                                                               
as well as licenses. After  a DWI conviction the driver's license                                                               
and state I.D.  would be confiscated and marked.  "We've done our                                                               
best to capture everyone under the bill."                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. O. C.  MADDEN, Brown Jug, added that since  the civil penalty                                                               
law went into effect in  1998, they have intercepted 1,700 minors                                                               
and taken civil  action against them. He said there  is no way to                                                               
gauge  how  many lives  have  been  saved  by those  efforts.  It                                                               
couldn't have been done without that legislation.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR BUNDE  said he  appreciated the  work they  do to  try to                                                               
reduce alcohol  abuse and  he was concerned  that people  who are                                                               
trying  to escape  this problem  would require  bars and  package                                                               
stores  to card  everyone  putting businesses  in  a very  liable                                                               
position.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. MADDEN replied that he  understands there is no liability for                                                               
a  licensee unless  they know  with absolute  certainty that  the                                                               
person has a red stripe on their license.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  BUNDE wondered  if the  practical realities  are if  you                                                               
don't card someone and they get  served, "I'm sure there would be                                                               
a lawyer knocking on your door....  And I find it very irritating                                                               
to be carded at my advanced age."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR.   MADDEN  replied   this  bill   doesn't  create   additional                                                               
liability.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. BEATY  added that two  memos from Legal Services  address the                                                               
concern  of  adding  additional liability  to  an  industry  that                                                               
already has  quite a  bit of criminal  and civil  liability. That                                                               
was  not the  intent and  both memos  state that  there isn't  an                                                               
additional liability.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR BUNDE  maintained his concern that  a determined creative                                                               
attorney would find a way to pursue liability issues.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR STEVENS  moved to pass  CSHB 14(L&C) from  committee with                                                               
individual recommendations.  There were no objections  and it was                                                               
so ordered.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                

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